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    <summary><![CDATA[ In astrology, synastry involves comparing the astrological charts of two individuals to see what they disclose about the compatibility and differences of those two individuals.&nbsp; &nbsp; Most synastry questions from non-astrologers are about love.&nbsp; Searches on my other website...]]></summary>
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</font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">In astrology, <i style="">synastry</i> involves comparing the astrological charts of two individuals to see what they disclose about the compatibility and differences of those two individuals.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Most synastry <i style="">questions</i> from non-astrologers are about love.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Searches on my other website show such queries in the form of wondering about the astrological meaning of "his sun conjunct her moon," or "her <span style="">&nbsp;</span>venus in his 4<sup>th</sup> house." <span style="">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>Questions like this come from the level of understanding of synastry that has been developed over time by traditional astrology using the traditional Western chart.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">That is, traditional astrology has not developed much valuable material concerning synastry.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>The traditional chart, comprised of only one chart with 10 planets, gives astrologers too little to compare.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>This astrology (described at length on the Home Page at <a href="http://www.angelfire.com/sd/binah.html">www.angelfire.com/sd/binah.html</a> ), comprised of 12 charts with 40 planets each (four each of the traditional 10), provides the material for stunning chart comparisons. <span style="">&nbsp;</span><i style="">It</i> makes sense of what happens between people.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Our charts are maps of our consciousness, indices of our take on reality.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Representative of the "individual mind," that is, individual consciousness, they graphically portray the billions of different minds crystallized out of unlimited Being.<span style="">&nbsp; </span><span style="">&nbsp;</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">But, the stuff of consciousness is the stuff of consciousness.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>What I mean by that is that the very things which makes consciousness what it is are the same things which make it similar in all beings who are conscious.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Therefore, we can share ideas, concepts, attitudes.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Therefore, we can also disagree about those things.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Therefore, each mind has a <i style="">chance</i> at an intimate relationship with one or more other minds.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Each mind <i style="">and its material manifestation </i>(the body, our homes, our "lives") has a chance at an intimate relationship with one or more other mind-body identities.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Returning to the idea that our charts are maps of our consciousness, we could say, for instance, that when you meet any one it can be seen as your chart meeting his chart.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Our charts are symbolic representations of our unique energy patterns (that is, our unique consciousness)<span style="">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>So, I can re-phrase that to<b style="">:</b><span style="">&nbsp; </span>when you meet any one it can be seen as your energy pattern coming into contact with his or her energy pattern.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">But, of course, this can also happen through space, independent of distance, one example being an Internet relationship. </font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">So the interaction of our consciousness with another's is not limited by space.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Or even time, since deceased writers, various historical figures, and past ancestors can have a big effect on our consciousness (though they tend to be one-way only.)</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Each of our energy <i style="">patterns, </i>charts, are relatively constant throughout our lives, that is, we start with a certain mindset.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>We do gain change through time, experience, and learning.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>The first two are shown astrologically through progressions and transits.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>But, our starting (birth) pattern remains the basic blueprint of our consciousness.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">The important point about our charts as maps of energy is that energy behaves in law-conformable ways.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>The behavior produced by energy as expressed through matter can be measured and quantified.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>The interactions of people can also be measured, classified, and quantified through comparing and contrasting their energy maps.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Some of those lawful interactions and classes of facts are the subject of this blog.</font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">That is, we are interested in what in astrology promotes harmonious relationship, and what bars or complicates it.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Through astrology we can examine any relationship, not just that of love.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Other types of relationship subject to useful scrutiny through synastry are those of parent/child, teacher/student, boss/employee, and friend/friend.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Indeed, parent/child synastry could be one of the <i style="">more</i> useful future forms of synastry.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>But, any long-term twosome could be examined through the lens of synastry.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Race, age, and sexual orientation make no difference <i style="">in synastry</i>. </font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">But synastry--it was a surprise to me--is also effective in short-term relationships.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>At least, that is what I have found so far.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>For instance, if some one murders a complete stranger, the synastry between them still contains the same difficult compound sets as those found in traditional homicide, where the victim and perpetrator usually know each other fairly well.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Information in this area is harder to collect, so it is hard to grow this category.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Though we often know the victim, we seldom know the perpetrator of such crimes. <span style="">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>In order to do synastry, we need the date, time, and place of birth (from the birth certificate) of both individuals in the exchange.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>So, right now I am limited to stating that <i style="">so far</i> I have seen that synastry is synastry, regardless of length of time of relationship.<i style=""><o:p></o:p></i></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">The corollary to that is that murder is murder, based on the energy pattern, not based on the length of time of relationship.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>It makes no difference whether it occurs through a stranger or a relative.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>The astrology that conduces to murder is the same in both instances.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">We don't object to the fruits of this type of inter-action when we consider "love at first sight" because we <i style="">favor</i> that exchange.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>But the "love" (it would be better to call this attraction) exists because of the interaction of the energy patterns, not because of the length of the relationship. </font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">I do not intend this discussion to deteriorate into something that justifies any behavior, especially something like murder.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>There is a difference between justifying and explaining.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>I am not saying that <i style="">because</i> certain energy patterns exist between two people that, for instance, murder <i style="">has</i> to happen.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Such energy patterns must have existed throughout time which failed to result in homicide.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>That is because people have different thresholds for turning frustration into rash action.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>They have different backgrounds offering a wide variety of substitute behaviors when confronted with murderous rage.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>They have differing stabilities and differing past habits.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>The latter is known in the East as samskaras.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Samskaras is the word used to identify ingrained (perhaps over lifetimes) thought-habit patterns.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>In this astrology, sign, placement, and condition of South Nodes comes closest to identifying our samskaras.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Generally speaking, in synastry it is not good if an individual's mars or saturn conjuncts our South Nodes.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>It is the opposite with venus and jupiter.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>To give another example, sun of one individual conjunct South Node of another is also not conducive to healthy relationship.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>In that case the essential being (sun) of the first individual is pulling the second one in the wrong direction--to his past, to places he is already <i style="">over-</i>focused.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">On the other hand, there is no doubt (see discussion below) using this astrology, for instance, that excessive compound mars/saturn synastry between two individuals is an <span style="">&nbsp;</span>astrological explanation that makes <i style="">passionate </i>murder reasonable.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">My more technical astrology site (address above) contains some papers on synastry.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>The paper entitled "An Abductor and His Victim<b style="">:</b> the Tragedy of Polly Klaas <i style="">and</i> an Unsolved Murder" makes a number of comments on synastry.<span style="">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>It starts with an analysis of Klaas and her abductor, Richard Allen Davis.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Then it explores the synastry between Charles Jaynes and Salvatore Sicari (both adults) and their homicide victim, 10 year old Jeffrey Curley.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>The first two were strangers to Curly.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Gregory Godzik was fourteen and a stranger to John Wayne Gacey when their paths crossed resulting in Godzik's death.<span style="">&nbsp; </span><i style="">Their</i> synastry is so difficult it is still painful for me to look at it.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Finally, I examined the astrological relationship between Father Richard LaVigne and 10-year old Danny Croteau.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>LaVigne was the Croteau family's <span style="">&nbsp;</span>parish priest when Danny was found murdered.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>(As far as I know, news reports have never stated whether or not Danny was molested.)<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">All the above chart comparisons were made <i style="">before</i> I realized the importance of locality astrology in synastry.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>As it turned out, it didn't matter because those crimes all occurred in the same or nearly the same locality as birth for all individuals involved.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">I have become more systematic in looking at synastry since writing the Klaas paper.<span style="">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>So far, I have written three more papers which explore the synastry of married couples.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>My aim was to show the synastry of "worse case scenarios" and "best case scenarios."<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Therefore, the first two papers cover the synastry between (1) O.J. Simpson and his deceased wife, Nicole Brown Simpson and (2) David and Jonelle Arien, married astrologers.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Six years into their marriage David killed his wife, then himself.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>The third paper shows the synastry between the poets, Robert and Elizabeth Barrett Browning, who history represents as having had a remarkably harmonious and felicitous love and work relationship.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">All of these papers involve some locality astrology, with that between O.J. and Nicole representing the most.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>More papers along these lines are in the pipeline.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Using worst and best cases scenarios in relationship as the field for examination uncovered their wide <i style="">astrological</i> divergence.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>While there is much more to synastry than just best and worst case scenarios, these two distinctly exposed prevalence of venus/jupiter and mars/saturn, respectively.<span style="">&nbsp; </span><span style="">&nbsp;</span>That is, couples who draw heavily on each other's venuses and jupiters have very strong, positive relationships.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Those who draw heavily on each other's mars and saturns have painful, troublesome, sometimes lethal relationships.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Venus and jupiter are also known as the lesser and greater benefics, respectively, of astrology.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Mars and saturn, the lesser and greater malefics.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Most of us have less extreme synastry.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>As far as I know right now, some of those less "showy" sets would be meaningless to compare.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>For instance, the moon of one individual to the Ascendant of another versus uranus in one chart to neptune in another do not lend themselves to the wide divergence shown by comparing compound benefics with compound malefics.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Angle/moon is far more neutral than, for instance, Angle/saturn.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>In fact, I still do not know what, if any, significance Angle/moon has in synastry.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>And uranus/neptune (without lights) is so abstract that few of us could discriminate any effect whatsoever. <span style="">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>Mercury/Angle as well as mercury/moon would likely be good for communication, but, since I have not seen it that much, my <i style="">tentative</i> conclusion is that that is not usually what <i style="">draws</i> people together. <span style="">&nbsp;</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Once we have compared charts between two individuals in terms of their exchanges of planets to each others Angles and lights, there is still more to be done in determining their compatibility.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Further synastry involves, for instance, whether or not they share moons.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Our moons represent the subject areas of lifelong interest.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Moons in Gemini, for instance, represent interests in writing, communication, books, speaking, and learning.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>I have found shared moons (in the same sign) strongly indicative of longer relationship because the two individuals have a common interest (sign moons are in) fueled by approximately the same passion (moon).<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Sun/moons also works that way, but the individual with the sun is less passionate (because he has this "knowledge" in his essence, sun) than the moon one who craves (moon) acquiring it. </font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Types of minds of each is important.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>For instance, one individual may have a neptunian mind (dreamy, imaginative, illusive, myth-creating, psychic, foggy) while his partner has a uranian one (iconoclastic, inventive, maverick, intuitive, autocratic).<span style="">&nbsp; </span>These two would be "agreement-challenged" in a long-term relationship because they speak different languages to begin with.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Worse, the uranian individual would be tempted to put down the neptunian one as foggy and gullible. <span style="">&nbsp;</span>And either of them would pose problems to the individual with, for instance, saturn ruling his 3<sup>rd</sup> house, for his mental approach would be orthodox, fixed, cautious, traditional, and slow to change.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>A neptunian mate would make him feel the bottom had dropped out of his security.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>A uranian one would fray his nerves, constantly over-riding his comfort zone.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Further aspects of synastry are that we cannot just opt for our best case partner by picking some one who's astrology is most benefic to ours.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>We all have planets in or ruling our 7<sup>th</sup> houses which have some say in determining qualities of our partners.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Conditions of our lights also make some difference in who we seek to unite with.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Conditions of our moons are descriptive of our models of women (moon), and those of our suns, of men (sun).<span style="">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>A woman, for instance, with three of her four moons (7<sup>th</sup> chart) in sets with saturn sees herself as serious, hard-working, essential, quiet, conservative, slow to change, cool--pretty much a home body.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>She is not going to be interested for very long in a strongly venusian man, who is warm, affectionate, party- and people-loving, and big on coziness.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Some one with saturn in the 7<sup>th</sup> house is going to find an older, restrictive, <span style="">&nbsp;</span>or very conservative partner more "attractive" than a philosophical, space-giving jupiterian one. <span style="">&nbsp;</span>The "saturn/7<sup>th</sup>" individual would not "recognize" or have a model for the latter Jovian mate. Therefore, he would be uncomfortable if such a potential partner showed up. </font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Some one with moon conjunct pluto on the Descendant (7<sup>th</sup> house cusp) is going to have trouble having any relationship at all.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Their inclination is to unconsciously (pluto) drive away (pluto) those who would be intimate with them.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Ultimately, other factors also influence our choices.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>For instance, it would be difficult for one individual to marry and stay married to another when one had a 10<sup>th</sup> chart showing a strong career, social success and prestige while the other's 10<sup>th</sup> chart suggested low social esteem. <span style="">&nbsp;</span>Some people might object that the latter individual's relationship to society could change.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>If that is possible, it will show up in their astrology.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>If it does not, <i style="">that </i>couple would have trouble staying together.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Ordinary people do not (usually) examine the charts of their potential mates for these things.<span style="">&nbsp; </span><span style="color: black;">They nonetheless screen for them (inadvertently or on purpose) through social interaction prior&nbsp;to marriage.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>This used to be done fairly thoroughly through courting--the&nbsp;couple would date and interact with extended family in a stable local environment for at&nbsp;least a year before marriage.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></span>Very little screening occurs when individuals marry "on the rebound."<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Very little also occurs when individuals marry shortly after meeting because, believing they have found true love, they throw all caution to the wind.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>That is what happened between David and Jonelle Arien, mentioned above.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>At the time they met they did have really wonderful progressed synastry--the kind of thing that would convince most people they will live happily ever after.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>The excitement that produced apparently obscured the fact that they a number of un-solvable differences (as was shown by the fact that they shared several compound dark malefics, i.e., an Angle/mars/saturn set between them).<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Once the <i style="">progressed</i> golden benefic passed, they were under the influence of some very hard astrology.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Screening for long-term compatibility can also be done through astrology. <span style="">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>At least, it can easily identify potential disasters. </font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Some sections of our American society still have in place more conservative, traditional approaches to marriage which encourage forethought before conjugal union.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Other sections, the thoroughly "modern," are left to re-invent the wheel of relationship one union at a time and suffer the consequences.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Marriage and procreation being what it is, these "un-tutored" couples are not the only ones who suffer the consequences.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="color: black;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Reducing those kinds of unions would spare the lives of&nbsp;two people per ill-considered marriage and&nbsp;greatly&nbsp;reduce our prison populations.&nbsp; Their separate progeny would then have a&nbsp;better start in life, one not marred by the discord, poverty, shame, endless distress, and humiliation of divorce and homicide.</font></span><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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    <title>Comments on Presidential Astrology</title>
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    <id>tag:www.starrypattern.com,2008:/starrypattern-blog//14.102</id>

    <published>2008-10-08T19:42:57Z</published>
    <updated>2008-10-18T17:00:20Z</updated>

    <summary><![CDATA[For an astrologer, it may seem odd that I am mostly against predictions.&nbsp; I think astrology has enormous contributions to make to our understanding of mankind.&nbsp; But predictions, whether good or bad, put us too much in our heads.&nbsp; They...]]></summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">For an astrologer, it may seem odd that I am mostly against predictions.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>I think astrology has enormous contributions to make to our understanding of mankind.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>But predictions, whether good or bad, put us too much in our heads.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>They create "presence deficits."<span style="">&nbsp; </span>In doing that, they tend to remove us from making contribution to our own (or even another's) future.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>That is never good.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>It can even end up being downright harmful.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">Further, the predictor, no matter how good, can be wrong.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Astrological symbols have differing layers of meaning.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>The astrologer may be stuck on the incorrect layer.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Life can be rich, but it is never rich enough to compensate for the error of a presumed future.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Those are some of the negatives influences that come from predictions.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Below are some of the problems involved in predicting a presidential winner.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">Unless it is a stunning victory, the winning presidential candidate, like the winning boxer in a highly publicized prize fight, is hard to identify.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>All four of the individuals in these contests are engaged in a major social event with mixed "reviews."<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Just by having arrived at the position to compete, they are already honored as "winners."<span style="">&nbsp; </span>That means they will have strong "positive" (pleasant, easy) astrology showing it.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Too, each of the four is involved in a grueling, knock-down, drag-out battle for supremacy.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>That should and does produce some "negative" (painful, difficult) astrology.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Battles, whether physical or psychological, show up as mars and saturn, planets sponsoring difficult experiences.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>But, so do losses.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>And finally, each has <i style="">millions</i> of people for him as well as<span style="">&nbsp; </span>against him.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>With numbers like that, it would be incorrect to say even the loser was "unpopular."<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Being simultaneously loved and hated publicly produces both kinds of astrology--positive and negative.<span style="">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">So, winning the presidency (or a boxing bout) is not the same as winning the lottery, especially if the fight is close.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>In the lottery, the winner has strong positive conditions in his 2<sup>nd</sup> chart (money,)<span style="">&nbsp; </span>7<sup>th</sup> <span style="">&nbsp;</span>chart (main chart of this method), and 8<sup>th</sup> chart (shared assets).<span style="">&nbsp; </span>He will <i style="">not</i> have very strong negative conditions.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>If he did, he would not win the lottery.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Unlike the presidential candidate, the lottery winners personality and social image are not inherent parts of his contest.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Therefore he won't have astrology regarding them.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Whether he is liked or disliked is not an issue.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">Of course, the chart of the <i style="">astrologer</i> also comes into play.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>An astrologer (or psychic or businessman, for all that) with a strongly positive chart (to begin with <i style="">and</i> for the time of the event) is going to be correct even if he suspended his astrological principles while arriving at his conclusion.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>It is just like Shakespeare wrote, "<i style="">all the world's a stage and..." </i><span style="">&nbsp;</span>If it is a stage, then each individual has a role.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>And if each individual has a role, then anybody cannot be <i style="">anything</i> he wants or there would be no play.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">So much for predictions.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>To compensate the reader, below I make a few comments, based on their astrology, of the personalities of Barack Obama and John McCain<b style=""> </b>using their 7<sup>th</sup> and 10<sup>th</sup> charts.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Mostly we know each other through our 7<sup>th</sup> charts, the chart of important others.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>It is the chart that best describes our personality.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Our 10<sup>th</sup> chart is the one that most reflects our public and social image as well as our career.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Both charts are active for individuals running for president.<o:p></o:p></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">The astrological source of Obama's very successful use of the word "change" comes from the following<b style="">:</b><span style="">&nbsp; </span>in his <i style="">10<sup>th</sup></i> <i style="">chart</i> he has conception <b style="">uranus at 1 Leo 01</b>, <b style="">birth uranus at 1 Leo 05, birth harmonic venus at 1 Leo 11, and birth North Node at 3 Leo 06</b>.<span style="">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>These are in an out-of-sign square to conception <b style="">mercury at 29 Libra 40</b>.<span style="">&nbsp; </span><b style="">Mercury/venus</b> is the signature of poets, great speakers (like Martin Luther King, Jr.), and smooth talkers--the latter being the slant on it through which the opposition tried to hoist Obama on his own petard.<span style="">&nbsp; </span><b style="">Mercury/uranus</b> shows intellectual brilliance.<span style="">&nbsp; </span><b style="">North Node/uranus</b> <i style="">highly</i> favors (NN) his success (NN) with change (uranus), not just in talking about it.<span style="">&nbsp; </span><span style="">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">John McCain also has <b style="">NN/uranus, </b>but his is only in his 7<sup>th</sup> chart.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>In 7<sup>th</sup> or 10<sup>th</sup>, it means he has been able to successfully challenge Obama's sole ownership of the word "change."<span style="">&nbsp; </span><span style="">&nbsp;</span>That is, McCain is also a man successfully (NN) involved in promoting change (uranus).<span style="">&nbsp; </span>McCain's <b style="">NN/uranus</b> is combined with mars, all in Sagittarius.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>His "change" is more combative (mars), but also based on moral/ethical principles (Sagittarius).<span style="">&nbsp; </span><b style="">Node/mars/uranus </b>is also the signature of courage.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>It often exists in the charts of adventurers and explorers.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>On its lower end it suggests foolhardiness.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>On its upper end, great daring.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">In fact, McCain's <i style="">10<sup>th</sup> chart</i> shows an individual with potent astrological resources for transformations.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>He has conception <b style="">sun at 2 Scorpio 10</b>, conception harmonic <b style="">venus at 5 Scorpio 56</b>, birth harmonic <b style="">uranus at 7 Scorpio 40</b>, conception <b style="">jupiter at 8 Scorpio 24</b>, and conception harmonic <b style="">moon at 11 Scorpio 04</b>.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>This is a <i style="">loose</i> golden benefic in the sign of Scorpio, <i style="">the sign of transformations</i>.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>It is very wide, therefore less effective (or, less automatic).<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Still, this set promises unusual success getting people to agree, for instance, on both sides of the Senate floor.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Sun, moon, venus, and jupiter in Scorpio, even loosely connected, suggest a man gifted at being able to work people from the inside, where they live.<o:p></o:p></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Obama has an interesting set in his <i style="">7<sup>th</sup> chart only</i>.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>He has both harmonic <b style="">suns in Aries</b> conjunct harmonic <b style="">mars in Aries</b>.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>On its lower end it represents an individual subject to rash or ill-considered behavior--acting without thinking.<span style="">&nbsp; </span><span style="">&nbsp;</span>On its higher end it represents an individual who can keep going even in the most dreadful circumstances.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Aries is about being.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>So long as some part of him can <i style="">be</i>--especially involved in an aim--the rest of his life can be in shambles and he will have the wherewithal to continue.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>It's a strength based on being able to continually re-focus around blocked avenues.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">McCain has birth <b style="">sun</b> and conception <b style="">moon in Leo</b>. <span style="">&nbsp;</span>Being fire signs, there is a lot of energy in both Aries and Leo.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Leo is the kingly sign which looks with great disfavor on small, petty, or mean behavior. <span style="">&nbsp;</span>It would be a mistake to treat McCain shabbily.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>He might not hit back, but he would eliminate the individual from his circle.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">One of McCain's negatives appears already handled, that is, by aging he has smoothed off its rough edges.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>He has conception <b style="">South Node in Gemini</b> conjunct his birth <b style="">Midheaven</b>.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>It's the astrological source of the reputation he had (or occasionally, sometimes has) for being immature, for instance, reports from fellow POW's that McCain was too much of a maverick, too combative.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>South node conjunct an Ascendant or Midheaven takes a long time to live down.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>For the most part, it functions throughout life.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>For that reason, some of his behavior would more easily be labeled "immature" (Gemini).<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Errors in that area would "stick" (South Node) to him.</font></p>
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    <title>Notes on the Astrological Diagnosis of Autism</title>
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    <id>tag:www.starrypattern.com,2008:/starrypattern-blog//14.101</id>

    <published>2008-10-08T18:50:40Z</published>
    <updated>2008-10-18T17:03:55Z</updated>

    <summary><![CDATA[I recently completed an Addendum to my first paper on autism.&nbsp; The original, titled Developmental Astrology: &nbsp;The Message in Autism, Five Autistic Children, was written in October of 2000.&nbsp; It can be found at http://www.angelfire.com/sd/binah/autism1.html.&nbsp; It contains descriptions of autism,...]]></summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">I recently completed an Addendum to my first paper on autism.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>The original, titled <i style="">Developmental Astrology: <span style="">&nbsp;</span>The Message in Autism, Five Autistic Children</i>, was written in October of 2000.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>It can be found at </font><a href="http://www.angelfire.com/sd/binah/autism1.html"><font color="#800080" size="3" face="Times New Roman">http://www.angelfire.com/sd/binah/autism1.html</font></a><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>It contains descriptions of autism, identifies its astrological significators, and tells why they were chosen.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">The Addendum adds another 7 autistic children to the group.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">All autistic children are not the same.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Some are fairly quiet and peaceful.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>They are beautiful little non-communicating angels.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>The terror of their beauty only shows itself when it becomes evident that they are toddlers who are not developing.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Some autistic children show considerable fear and anxiety.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Others demonstrate some really difficult and trying behavior.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Descriptions like this cover a wide range of behavioral forms.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Behaviorally, at least, it appears autistic children are children who may be autistic and most certainly are challenged in ways other than autism.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">For instance, some autistic children are actually diagnosed as autistic <i style="">and </i>schizophrenic.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Indeed, when it first started appearing as a disease, some professionals diagnosed autism as childhood schizophrenia.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Autism, from my point of view, is not schizophrenia, not even childhood schizophrenia.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Schizophrenia is a distinct astrological disorder, specifically spelled out in my paper on that disorder (see <i style="">Paranoid Schizophrenia and John Hinckley, Jr</i>." on the Home Page, same site as above.).<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Schizophrenic types of insanity were further sorted and elucidated in my Woolf paper (same site).<span style="">&nbsp; </span>That paper included the astrology for insanity of four individuals--Virginia Woolf, Friedrich Nietzsche, Vincent Van Gogh, and Vaslav Nijinsky.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Each was examined for his predisposition to his disorder as well as its timing (when it occurred).</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">I have a relatively large file on schizophrenia.<span style="">&nbsp; </span><st1:place>Hinckley</st1:place>'s schizophrenia, it turned out, was more an event than a condition.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Though it was somewhat implied, it did not exist in his birth chart.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>It developed and was strongest at the time he tried to assassinate President Reagan.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Astrologically, <st1:place>Hinckley</st1:place> does not have a strong disposition toward schizophrenia--he was subject to it because he of his weak ego identity.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Schizophrenia involves the astrological indicators neptune (or Pisces) in the harmonic chart for the <b style="">3<sup><span style="position: relative; top: -4pt;">rd</span></sup></b><span style="">&nbsp;</span>house (representing the mind).<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Paranoid schizophrenia involves neptune (or Pisces) <b style="">plus</b> mars.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Mars/neptune is always toxic to the subject area (chart) it modifies.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>For instance, if it occurs forefront in a <b style="">5<sup>th</sup></b> chart (sexuality), the subject can be sexually hyper-excitable, or may attract really odd (crazy) partners.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Or it can represent a sexually based cancer like cervical cancer.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>In a <b style="">6<sup>th</sup></b> chart (health and service), mars/neptune represents "crazy" (toxic) health conditions, cancer being one of them.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Cancer is "crazy" because with cancer the individual's cell physiology has gone "mad."</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Present literature on autism also brings mental retardation into some definitions of autism. <span style="">&nbsp;</span><span style="">&nbsp;</span>My paper on mental retardation (see <i style="">Mental Retardation and Astrology's Ancient Malefics, Mars and Saturn) </i><span style="">&nbsp;</span>is also on the same site as noted above.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>An autistic child could be mentally retarded.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>A mentally retarded child might also be autistic.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Astrologically, however, the two conditions are separable and quite distinct.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Retardation involves the astrological indicators mars and saturn in the harmonic chart for the 3<sup><span style="position: relative; top: -4pt;">rd</span></sup><span style="">&nbsp;</span>house.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">The children in the autistic group also share a common astrological pattern.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Each has saturn and pluto in the same set (aspect) and predominant in one or both of two charts, their harmonic <i style="">charts</i> for their 1<sup><span style="position: relative; top: -4pt;">st</span></sup><span style="">&nbsp;</span>and 3<sup><span style="position: relative; top: -4pt;">rd</span></sup><span style="">&nbsp;</span>houses.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Their predominance in the <i style="">1<sup>st</sup> chart</i> in particular implies an influence that starts very early in life (chart for 1<sup>st</sup> house).<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Saturn/pluto there, as a set of specifications, "tells" the incarnating individual to turn around and remain at the threshold of incarnation, at saturn, at the place where the individual first splits off from soul in order to become a human being.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Having already started incarnating, he is then suspended between being a soul and being a human.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>He does not identify with (or recognize) either world.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">In his <i style="">3<sup>rd</sup> chart</i> his saturn/pluto influence is doing essentially the same thing.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Rather than it binding his early identity (as shown in the 1<sup>st</sup> chart), saturn/pluto in his 3<sup>rd</sup> are binding his <i style="">thinking</i> (chart for 3<sup>rd</sup> house).<span style="">&nbsp; </span>For humans in particular, our thinking is intricately involved in our identity.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Same result--he does not recognize either world.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Or rather, he recognizes only the most essential and abstract aspects (saturn) of this world.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Because pluto is involved he is quietly, deeply obsessed (pluto) with that "place."</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">To see what this influence does to individuals already grown, read the paper <i style="">The Disappearing Priest: One Man's Odyssey</i>, same site <span style="">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>(</font><a href="http://www.angelfire.com/sd/binah/hermit.html"><font color="#800080" size="3" face="Times New Roman">http://www.angelfire.com/sd/binah/hermit.html</font></a><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>His saturn/pluto influence showed itself most strongly in his 7<sup>th</sup> chart well after he had become a man.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">With or without the diagnosis actually including it, autism, for some reason, suffers a frequent admixture of the other mental dysfunctions.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>It is autism "with complications." It is hard to tell.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Are we truly in an epidemic of autism?<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Or is autism (saturn/pluto) so dominant that it overshadows the less popular diagnoses?<span style="">&nbsp; </span>We had schizophrenia and retardation--even manic depression--for a long time as <i style="">single</i> diagnoses.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Along came autism, and the diagnosis was no longer single.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Or, sometimes it was single, but it should have been multiple. </font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Among this second group of seven autistic children, several showed schizoid tendencies (light/neptune/3<sup><span style="position: relative; top: -4pt;">rd</span></sup><span style="">&nbsp;</span>) or paranoid schizoid tendencies (light/mars/neptune/3<sup><span style="position: relative; top: -4pt;">rd</span></sup>).<span style="">&nbsp; </span>One appeared retarded (light/mars/saturn/3<sup><span style="position: relative; top: -4pt;">rd</span></sup>).<span style="">&nbsp; </span><span style="">&nbsp;</span>One had moon conjunct uranus in Pisces in the 3<sup><span style="position: relative; top: -4pt;">rd</span></sup><span style="">&nbsp;</span><i style="">chart</i> representing a special form of mental problem for which I have no label.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Whoever diagnosed the child called it schizophrenia.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>I see it as a psychosis, but not necessarily schizophrenia.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>It earlier days it might have been called idiocy.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">We can see the latter at work in the charts of Nietzsche and Nijinsky (paper cited above).<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Their insanity occurred well into adulthood.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>They did not just have schizophrenic episodes.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>They went insane and <i style="">stayed</i> insane.<span style="">&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">Loosely, retardation represents choppy and painful, <i style="">broken down</i>, mind dysfunction<b style="">;</b> schizophrenia, <i style="">toxic</i> mind dysfunction<b style="">; </b>autism, <i style="">obsession</i> with pre-incarnational abstractness that precludes ego identification&lt;b&gt;;&lt;/b&gt; and finally, moon/uranus/Pisces, an almost complete <i style="">incapacity</i> mentally to pull together any ego identity.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">From my point of view as an astrologer, one thing is becoming clear.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Whether it is prescriptive, or only tentatively prescriptive based on interaction with other factors like hereditary, soil, diet, or pollution, autism has distinct significators.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>They are lighted saturn/pluto forefront in either the 1<sup>st</sup> or 3<sup>rd</sup> chart.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>These are the significators all 12 autistic children shared.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>So, astrologically, these two planets describe autism, and they also tend to prescribe it.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Why they describe it is covered in that first paper, link cited in the first paragraph of this blog.</font></p>
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    <title>School Shooters and Other Mass Murderers</title>
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    <summary><![CDATA[&nbsp; The following involves a discussion of the astrology of a sub-group of mass murderers, particularly that of Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris, the school shooters in Littleton, Colorado. &nbsp; We live in ironic times.&nbsp; If your family member, friend,...]]></summary>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">The following involves a discussion of the astrology of a sub-group of mass murderers, particularly that of Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris, the school shooters in <st1:place><st1:city>Littleton</st1:city>, <st1:state>Colorado</st1:state></st1:place>.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">We live in ironic times.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>If your family member, friend, or neighbor becomes psychotic, society at least recognizes that he needs help.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>If some one, however, is neurotic--that is, dysfunctional in some important area of life and cannot meet his own human needs--too bad. <span style="">&nbsp;</span>Either he himself suppresses all knowledge of his problem and acts it out, or he goes through hell trying to <i style="">act</i> like what he thinks every one else is like, or he spends enormous amounts of money trying to get fixed--if he is lucky. <span style="">&nbsp;</span>We are all "free" to dysfunction or under-function from cradle to grave.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Psychosis can, but does not necessarily, attract social sympathy. <span style="">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>Neuroses, however, makes society functionally blind.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>We'd rather not look.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Out of sight, out of mind.<span style="">&nbsp; </span><span style="">&nbsp;</span>Unlike psychosis, neurosis silently worms its way into our social norms.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Psychosis is blatant<b style="">;</b><span style="">&nbsp; </span>neurosis is pervasive, extensive, multi-faceted, degreed, and to those who do not want to know, subtle.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Neurosis, not psychosis, is mankind's major mental ailment.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Neurosis is mankind's <i style="">very costly</i> major mental ailment.<span style="">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>The emotional, economic, social, and moral devastation caused by us neurotics make everything done by psychotics look like the work of schoolgirls.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">Also in our time packaging is often more important than content.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Fame is sought<b style="">;</b> character is not.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Image is extremely powerful. <span style="">&nbsp;</span>The huge success of advertising--which defines even our presidential campaigns--confirms this.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">In the astrology I work with each individual's chart tells a lot about him--not his soul, because the soul does not have parameters measurable by astrology.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>But it tells a great deal about his personality, about his neuroses and, if he has them, psychoses.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>We all have personalities.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">In astrology an individual seldom does anything without "having the consciousness" representing it. <span style="">&nbsp;</span>He may not be aware he has that consciousness--that is, the material is in his unconscious--but his astrology will show it.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>He gets married when he has the consciousness of marriage.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>He changes careers when he has the consciousness of career change. She has children when she has the consciousness of childbearing.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>And so on and on, up to and including dying.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>The planets are not only descriptive, they are considerably prescriptive.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>The planetary conditions that define discrete forms of consciousness are called <i style="">signatures</i>.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>It is possible for an individual to have a signature for some action which he does not do, i.e., he may refrain.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>On the other hand, he will hardly do something for which he has no signature at all.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">So, some one can have many elements of the complex signature for murder, and not murder any one.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>At the same time, he will not murder unless he has the necessary parts of the signature for murder. <span style="">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">By combining the above statements about the importance of image <i style="">and</i> varieties of consciousness defined by signatures, we open the way to our current topic--school shootings.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris were the two young men who killed 13 and wounded another 23 defenseless students on <st1:date year="1999" day="20" month="4">April 20, 1999</st1:date> at Columbine high school in <st1:place><st1:city>Littleton</st1:city>, <st1:state>Colorado</st1:state></st1:place>. </font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Below I discuss the astrology they had, and had to have, in order to do such a thing. </font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">An important part of the signature for murderers involves forefront mars (aggression) influencing their <i style="">7th house</i> (others). Without this influence their aggression would be directed elsewhere.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Certainly not toward others.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Mars influence on the <i style="">7<sup>th</sup> house</i> sets the path their aggression takes--that is, on others, on the You part of I-You.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Aggression can go elsewhere.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>For instance, mars influence to the <i style="">3<sup>rd</sup> house</i> directs aggression at siblings, neighbors, or other highway drivers--all of these being 3<sup>rd</sup> house matters.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>To a <i style="">5<sup>th</sup> house</i>, mars' aggression goes toward sexual partners or children--both being 5<sup>th</sup> house matters.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>In the 10<sup>th</sup> house it goes into careers.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Mars' influence to the 7th house does not <i style="">create</i> the act of murder.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>There are many socially acceptable (and even useful) ways aggression toward others can be expressed.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Mars' influence there <i style="">enables</i> the aggressive energy (mars) of one individual to be <i style="">directed</i> toward another (7<sup>th</sup>).</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">What else? <span style="">&nbsp;</span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">For what happened at Columbine High, the perpetrators must have had conditions in their first house (early life) connected to their fourth house (end of life) suggesting their early demise (1<sup>st</sup>/4<sup>th</sup> signature). <span style="">&nbsp;</span>Once again, these conditions do not mandate an early demise, but are there when it does happen.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">But, to do as Harris and Klebold did, they had to have 10th house (career, reputation) signatures symbolizing a very public death--their instant fame. <span style="">&nbsp;</span>One famous example of that was President John F. Kennedy, with the ruler of his 4<sup>th</sup> (end of life) house in his 10<sup>th</sup> (career, mid-life).<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Without this signature, <i style="">we</i> wouldn't have heard about their death.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Harris and Klebold courted<i style=""> </i>fame in death.<o:p></o:p></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">All the above astrological signatures existed in the charts of Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Because their action was so unusual--to find it so easy to choose death even before adulthood is not usual--other influences had to exist. </font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Both had to have on-going consciousness of death, tending to make it familiar, comfortable, and acceptable.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Ongoing consciousness of death can be represented a number of ways astrologically.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>One way is to have planets in Scorpio on or ruling an Angle (Midheaven or Ascendant).<span style="">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>The sign Scorpio represents the transformations that come with ego dissolution, including the ongoing mini-deaths of marriage and other close partnership, martyrdom, and physical death.<span style="">&nbsp; </span><span style="">&nbsp;</span>Scorpio calls for the merging of individual identities for a greater, but different, good.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>But it is not always the greater good.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Harris' and Klebold's <i style="">whole generation</i> has Uranus (sudden, unforeseen) and Neptune (fascination) in Scorpio.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>That answers the question of why they have been cast so often into the "death" environments of school shootings--they all have the consciousness for it.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Most of them, however, do not have these planets on Angles, so they are not <i style="">obsessed</i> with death.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Dylan Klebold had <st1:place>neptune</st1:place> in Scorpio on his Midheaven<b style="">.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></b>Eric Harris had uranus in Scorpio on his Ascendant--that is, on Angles, therefore forefront.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>"Transformation thinking," was very familiar to them.<span style="">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Transformation thinking augmented by rage lead them to fantasize in terms of the most radical of all transformations, death. </font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Even now many of their peers have uranus and/or neptune in Scorpio on Angles.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Most of them, however, do not have the 4th (early death) and 10th house (fame at death) influences Klebold and Harris had.<span style="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>So they have a strong consciousness of death, but they are not killing each other.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Can you see it?<span style="">&nbsp; </span>This process is a form of differential diagnosis.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Fewer and fewer people are likely to be school shooters as the number of signatures needed to describe their actions increase.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>The signature that describes Harris' and Klebold's end was complex.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>It took many twists--this turn, not that turn, this way blocked, that open--on consciousness to limit it to that final act.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>I can not state that the sum of their signatures mandated their actions.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>I can only state that their combined signatures made their acts possible.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">So, another answer...<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Why, when many of our teenagers ingest large quantities of TV and video violence every day, do only some of them become violent?<span style="">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Only a small number of them have the full template (that is, combined astrological signatures) suggesting fame, violence, murder, and early death.<span style="">&nbsp; </span><span style="">&nbsp;</span>Most of their peers have their consciousness directed elsewhere for at least some of those signatures..</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">What else?</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Unless they were sociopaths (not true of Harris and Klebold), they had to have some kind of internal pain which converted their Scorpio consciousness from "life transformations" to the ultimate transformation, death.<span style="">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Un-requitable love is painful.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>So, it turns out, is un-requitable pain. <span style="">&nbsp;</span>We know from rape victims that anger that cannot be redressed spins and careens within, causing serious physical and psychological problems.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Over time anger that cannot be acceptably resolved begins to look visible for expression, for an outward sign of its invisible hell, particularly with men.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>(Women tend to aim it inward, at themselves.)</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Of the two, I believe Klebold the more normal, that is, within a prevailing norm. Of the two, I also believe Klebold the follower. <span style="">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>With his <st1:place>neptune</st1:place> in Scorpio, Klebold had more <i style="">fascination</i> with death than Harris.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">But Eric Harris--more neurotic, more troubled--had the massive pain and anger. <span style="">&nbsp;</span>Harris had sun conjunct mars in Pisces.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Because he had mars (aggression) and Pisces (confusion) forefront, Harris' world included his inappropriate behavior toward others <i style="">and</i> theirs toward him.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Mars/neptune (or mars in Pisces), unlike Angular venus/jupiter (e.g., Paul Newman) or Angular moon/venus (President Kennedy, Princess Diana), is not charismatic. Mars/neptune/Pisces drives people away.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>It makes people comment, "he's weird."<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Because he is weird, he is, in fact, treated weirdly.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>So the very ground on which he stands becomes marshy, unreliable.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Harris was rejected again and again, not just socially, but at home.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Not just yesterday, but most of his yesterdays. </font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Harris' world also included a strong interest in control and personal privacy.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>He would have wanted to hide his pain.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>He would have tried to control its expression.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">One picture I saw of Harris illustrated his condition.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>With his body he was demonstrating belligerence, swagger, fearlessness.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>But his eyes showed some one who was <i style="">very</i> frightened.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>It was the photo of some one making a desperate attempt to appear tough.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">Imagine the conflict generated by those two, differing, conditions--being very frightened, and trying to keep every bit of it hidden. His response must have been increasingly to shut down, allowing little of his real feelings out, but then, less pain in.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Shutting down is not a long-term, viable option.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Psychic energy has to go somewhere<b style="">:</b> if it cannot be used in agreeable aims or in exchange with others, it is too constrained.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>It is definitely too limited for most teenagers, who define themselves so much through interaction with others.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Feelings are high on the scale of normal teenage manifestations.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">There was one more major emphasis with Harris that played into his becoming a mass murderer. He had an unusual sexuality that was in utter conflict with his need for control. <span style="">&nbsp;</span>Prior to adolescence it did not present so much of a social problem. Post-adolescence, however, it became a thorn in his flesh.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>His sun conjunct mars in Pisces mentioned above influenced his 5<sup>th</sup> house (sexuality).<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Eric Harris had a pronounced, receptive, submissive type of sexuality. <span style="">&nbsp;</span>(Did that mean he was gay?<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Not necessarily.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>There is usually a difference between gay and self-rejecting)<span style="">&nbsp; </span>His sexuality--it would be better to say his character, including his sexuality--had self-abnegation, humiliation, passivity built into it. <span style="">&nbsp;</span>That, his submissiveness and confusion, ultimately made him interested in promoting his last image<b style="">: <span style="">&nbsp;</span></b>Eric Harris the cold, insensitive, macho male--the opposite of the way he actually was. That image was his Yang response to his too-Yin susceptibility. <span style="">&nbsp;</span>It was also his ultimate rejection of his own, extremely painful, reality.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">Did his pain, his astrology give him (them) the right--the justification--to commit murder?<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Not at all.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>But Harris' and Klebold's astrology makes the murders they did commit more understandable. <span style="">&nbsp;</span>Understanding will not restore the lives they so cruelly took<span style="">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>But understanding can give us a one-up position on the prevention of future "Eric Harrises."<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">One specific astrological signature, then, has played a strong role in creating the Harris-like monsters that spew out the misplaced aggression of mass murder<b style="">:</b><span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">Eric Harris had that prominent, lighted mars in Pisces.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">So did the Unabomber, who terrified the nation with his placed or mailed bombs from 1978 to 1995.&nbsp; (An astrological analysis of this individual exists at <a href="http://www.angelfire.com/sd/binah/unabomber.html">http://www.angelfire.com/sd/binah/unabomber.html</a>.)</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">So did Charles Joseph Whitman Jr., sharpshooter and Eagle Scout, who climbed the tower at the <st1:place><st1:placetype>University</st1:placetype> of <st1:placename>Texas</st1:placename></st1:place>, <st1:city><st1:place>Austin</st1:place></st1:city>, on <st1:date year="1966" day="1" month="8">August 1, 1966</st1:date> with an arsenal of weapons and started randomly shooting at men, women, children, and even pregnant women.</font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style=""><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">(An astrological analysis of this individual exists at <a href="http://www.angelfire.com/sd/binah/whitman.html">http://www.angelfire.com/sd/binah/whitman.html</a>.)</font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">So did James Huberty, who killed 21 people and wounded 18 at a California McDonald's restaurant in 1984. <span style="">&nbsp;</span>His mars in Pisces was not forefront <i style="">when</i> he committed murder, but it was doubly lighted.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>That means it was active in his consciousness then.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>It had been active on and off throughout his life.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">So did Timothy McVeigh, who killed all those people in the bombing of the <st1:place><st1:placename>Oklahoma City</st1:placename> <st1:placename>Federal</st1:placename> <st1:placetype>Building</st1:placetype></st1:place>.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>He was born with two (both harmonic) mars in Pisces in his 7<sup>th</sup> house of his 7<sup>th</sup> chart.<span style="">&nbsp; </span><span style="">&nbsp;</span>One of them was conjunct pluto in Pisces (in his 7<sup>th</sup> house) and in the same set with an Ascendant/moon, that is, this signature was forefront.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">McVeigh's other mars in Pisces was conjunct progressed moon and progressed pluto in Pisces (in his 7<sup>th</sup>, with Angular influence) on the date of <span style="">&nbsp;</span>the Waco, Texas massacre occurring on April 19, 1993.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>At that time men, women, and children died--either from government gunfire or through the compound fire.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>McVeigh's (then second) active mars in Pisces was the astrological source for his identification with those victims.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>He felt their powerlessness because he was experiencing it himself.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">Two years later to the day McVeigh committed his own mass murder.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>He denied his powerlessness by converting it into a singular act of "power."<span style="">&nbsp; </span>He let all of us know a powerless nobody can become a powerful somebody.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>He sought celebrity and he found it.<span style="">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">At that time McVeigh also had a progressed conjunction of North Node/venus/saturn/pluto all <i style="">in Pisces</i> in his 7<sup>th</sup> house (similar to a signature President Richard Nixon had just before he resigned office).<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Saturn represents lack, deficiency, want.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Pluto increases the intensity of that sensation.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>7<sup>th</sup> house is the astrological house in which we connect to others.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>At that time McVeigh was feeling totally alone, exactly the right condition for the festering of old sores like <st1:city><st1:place>Waco</st1:place></st1:city>.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>He could not make his mark in relationships, so he made it in social awareness.<span style="">&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">I do not know about the rest of these killers, but both Huberty and McVeigh had tried counseling.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>They failed to get the help they needed.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">I am sorry, but I do not have birth data on the many other school shooters we have had in <st1:country-region><st1:place>America</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>So I cannot include information on their charts.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>I do not know if they had mars in Pisces.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>I would particularly like to see the birth chart of the young man involved in the Virginia Tech murders, but it may never be available.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Every mass murderer does not have mars in Pisces.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Thomas Watt, the man who slaughtered all those elementary school children in <st1:place><st1:city>Dunblane</st1:city>, <st1:country-region>Scotland</st1:country-region></st1:place> was a little different.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>He had a prominent, lighted <i style="">mars/neptune</i>.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>That is not mars in Pisces, but is as close to it as a different signature can get because <st1:place>neptune</st1:place> rules Pisces.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">The reverse (or is it the converse or obverse?) is also true.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Every male with a prominent mars in Pisces does not commit murder.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></font></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">But every one, male of female, with mars in Pisces is in for some difficult life-long experiences.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>In astrology mars stands for action, aggression, directing.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>It symbolizes our initiative.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Our initiative is absolutely essential in defining our identity.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>In order to "have" a healthy ego one must be capable of acting in one's own best interest.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>In his book on the correlation of the measure formula with the twelve astrological signs, author and <st1:city><st1:place>Bell</st1:place></st1:city> helicopter engineer Arthur M. Young assigned different measure formula to each of the astrological signs.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>For Pisces he used the formula for "moment of inertia." <span style="">&nbsp;</span>That assignment was perfect.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Mars in Pisces describes the individual's initiative (mars) entangled in hesitation, flip-flopping in indecision, drowning in lack of self-confidence, and spinning on second guessing (all Pisces).<span style="">&nbsp; </span>In terms of normal functioning mars in Pisces leads to lost opportunities, <i style="">really</i> bad timing, and mistrust from others.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Because it is so painful, it also allows very little learning<i style="">.<span style="">&nbsp; </span></i><span style="">&nbsp;</span>Compounded over the years its experiences create the colossal rage and the enormous need to <i style="">appear </i><span style="">&nbsp;</span>powerful that is characteristic of mass murderers.</font></p>
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